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Ima Wreckyou
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Posted - 2015.07.16 01:37:50 -
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Miner! Calm down!
Now, instead of writing such a thread full of tears, why don't you just purchase a mining permit? I mean it is only 10mil ISK and valid for a whole year.
Or maybe go to wormsec if you don't like it in New Order territory?
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Ima Wreckyou
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Posted - 2015.07.20 05:39:09 -
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Kironas Tritoris wrote:invalid opinion because posted with alt (or carebear with empty killboard) Calm down miner! If they quit the game because they are bad at it doesn't that make them the losers?
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Ima Wreckyou
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Posted - 2015.07.20 05:54:56 -
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Dracvlad wrote:Can you explain to me about the sub-set of such people who make a big thing about tears? Look, my RL really sucks and when I come home from cleaning the toilets at the train station all I am really looking forward to is making someone cry over his exploding pixel spaceship. Bathing in the tears of carebears who lost his first ship and his expensive pod is revitalizing my crippled soul.
Was that the answer you where looking for? Do you feel better now?
Actually I just enjoy to play the evil trouble maker and it is interesting how people react because they somehow think they have to mark the hero and protect the miners. There are just a lot of interesting thing happening if you steer up some trouble. It's some really interesting game play, because it is all based on other players and they are very unpredictable to a certain degree. It's not just about killing miners, at least for me. Killing miners is just the start...
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Ima Wreckyou
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Posted - 2015.07.20 07:05:18 -
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Dracvlad wrote:Ima Wreckyou wrote:Dracvlad wrote:Can you explain to me about the sub-set of such people who make a big thing about tears? Look, my RL really sucks and when I come home from cleaning the toilets at the train station all I am really looking forward to is making someone cry over his exploding pixel spaceship. Bathing in the tears of carebears who lost his first ship and his expensive pod is revitalizing my crippled soul. Was that the answer you where looking for? Do you feel better now? Actually I just enjoy to play the evil trouble maker and it is interesting how people react because they somehow think they have to mark the hero and protect the miners. There are just a lot of interesting thing happening if you steer up some trouble. It's some really interesting game play, because it is all based on other players and they are very unpredictable to a certain degree. It's not just about killing miners, at least for me. Killing miners is just the start... Your answer is incorrect, though I do believe that you are a member of that sub-set. By the way I do not protect miners, because they can get into a Skiff or Procurer and fit a tank, so you only cull the weak and foolish. And my actions have a foundation in my own self-interest, does that confuse you? I am in no way talking about you. I never even met you ingame. It seams you don't even grasp half of the stuff we are doing.
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Ima Wreckyou
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Posted - 2015.07.21 06:42:19 -
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Dracvlad wrote: In terms of the concept too easy, its true that you guys have been very organised and very good at it, however more and more people are ganking which is creating an inbalance in the game. Many people on our side feel that the penalties applied to the gankers are no deterrence at all, this is not so much a question of easy, but more to do with a balance that makes people think about whether to do this or not, this is why many of us suggest a slight adjustment to the penalties in hisec. Like many I am not against ganking as such, but I feel that the deterrence provided by the Empires and CONCORD are not enough to create the right balance in game.
This is not NPC content where you can balance it by adjusting the loot table. This is player content that gets balanced by the game mechanics and this is what CCP is doing for over 12 years. They continuously nerfed ganking and the result is a more secure Highsec which in turn leads to fatter Freighters because people feel safe.
So if you think it is too rewarding to gank Freighters, wait until Highsec gets even safer. Go two years back and tell someone that carebears autopilot Freighters with 12B ISK on a daily basis and no one will believe you.
There will always be someone who steps up the game if you nerf ganking even more because at some point the Freighters will get so fat it will pay for the losses. But the more you nerf the more people will be required and you will have whole alliances centred around this fountain of wealth which is the careless carebear (this is already happening as you may have noticed).
The "balance" is where do you want to have that fat freighter ISK wise. Is 12bil ok or should it be more? Maybe you are happy if we kill only 100bil ISK Freighters? Or should we go back to 2bil ISK Freighters again and enable the whole Freighter ganking profession for smaller groups in the process.
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Ima Wreckyou
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Posted - 2015.07.21 06:50:01 -
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Serendipity Lost wrote: Here, I'll just out w/ it. I think it would be super eve funny if CCP fooked with CODE. where CODE. had zero recourse. They would have to feel like the poor miner saps they wonk on day in and day. It would be even more super eve funny if CCP contrived some 'saviour of (fill in blank in creative roleplaying way)' and used that to justify taking a dump on CODE. operations.
It would just be funny. It would also be interesting to see if CODE. would then HTFU and keep going or just dissolve into the history books. I know where I would place my bets.
So what you say is we are so super eve elite that all powerful CCP which is not an in-game entity but the creator of the game itself, has to step in to stop us, because you carebears are to bad at the game to do something about it with the game tools available?
I would say that probably the MMO equivalent of winning the game (for us obviously), since you are completely dominated and can only hope for divine intervention at that point.
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Ima Wreckyou
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Posted - 2015.07.21 17:13:22 -
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Dracvlad wrote:Ima Wreckyou wrote:Dracvlad wrote: In terms of the concept too easy, its true that you guys have been very organised and very good at it, however more and more people are ganking which is creating an inbalance in the game. Many people on our side feel that the penalties applied to the gankers are no deterrence at all, this is not so much a question of easy, but more to do with a balance that makes people think about whether to do this or not, this is why many of us suggest a slight adjustment to the penalties in hisec. Like many I am not against ganking as such, but I feel that the deterrence provided by the Empires and CONCORD are not enough to create the right balance in game.
This is not NPC content where you can balance it by adjusting the loot table. This is player content that gets balanced by the game mechanics and this is what CCP is doing for over 12 years. They continuously nerfed ganking and the result is a more secure Highsec which in turn leads to fatter Freighters because people feel safe. So if you think it is too rewarding to gank Freighters, wait until Highsec gets even safer. Go two years back and tell someone that carebears autopilot Freighters with 12B ISK on a daily basis and no one will believe you. There will always be someone who steps up the game if you nerf ganking even more because at some point the Freighters will get so fat it will pay for the losses. But the more you nerf the more people will be required and you will have whole alliances centred around this fountain of wealth which is the careless carebear (this is already happening as you may have noticed). The "balance" is where do you want to have that fat freighter ISK wise. Is 12bil ok or should it be more? Maybe you are happy if we kill only 100bil ISK Freighters? Or should we go back to 2bil ISK Freighters again and enable the whole Freighter ganking profession for smaller groups in the process. My comments are aimed more at the penalties which are applied as part of the CONCORD reaction to ganking, I think they need to be adjusted so add back a bit more deterrence but without making it too difficult, the issue is that CCP tend to over compensate.. In truth I think that freighters are a bit too easy, you quite often kill those which are carrying nothing, but then again you guys have got very organised to kill them which of course makes it look easy, credit to you chaps there for your gameplay, in effect I am not so focussed on the value of the freighter, 2bn as a cross over point seems reasonable to me, but stil the tank on a Charon is rather naff. I am not sure if you did not read my post or just did not understand what I wrote?
Increasing the safety will increase the amout of stuff they haul. I wrote in my previous post why I think this is the case. If you don't think my thoughts on this are valid please adress it and don't just generate another random gank nerf idea.
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Ima Wreckyou
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Posted - 2015.07.22 04:46:56 -
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Dracvlad wrote: I don't think you understand what I am getting at, maybe a buff to the Charon in some way, but the thing is that I am not so bothered about the value of the cargo being the determining factor like you suggest, the changes I am thinking of is a buffing of the penalties so that CONCORD blow us anything the ganker is in for 15 minutes period, or have some docking penalties that are meaningful, what it would do is change things slightly. I certainly am not in favour of a typical CCP over the top nerf approach, did you see what they did to the drake... or more importantly to the heavy missiles.
EDIT: I just want to say even though I am opposed to CODE I do respect their sheer organisation and the skill of many of their players, they are skilled and very good at what they do.
It is pretty obvious what you are getting at. You think one more nerf will fix ganking, just like all the carebears before. I just explained to you why this will never work and why it will create even fatter targets for us.
About a year ago they already buffed Freighters. Befor that it was not possible to fit modules on them. Not even a day went by after said buff to potential Freighter EHP one of the biggest tear threads emerged on the forums and the carebears asked for more buffs thinking again one more nerf will fix it. This happens all the time, and all you are doing is monopolizing this kind of stuff for big alliances while at the same time increasing the value of the targets because they feel safer.
Anyway, I feel like I am talking to a wall here, so I will probably just add you to the ignore list like Lukas and not waste any more time with your unreflected calls for that one more nerf.
Btw, wasn't that awoxing nerf going to fix Highsec life?
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Ima Wreckyou
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Posted - 2015.07.22 12:55:34 -
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Dracvlad wrote:Thank you for the correction, so maybe CONCORD should improve in terms of how they operate for those 15 minutes. Ah, now that you noticed that your proposed nerf is already implemented and it was not the "one nerf to fix them all" you just propose another nerf which will be the "one nerf to fix them all".
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Posted - 2015.07.23 01:48:25 -
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Renegade Heart wrote:It doesn't really matter if the standard CODE gank fleets are profitable or not. If it's fun doing it then it's all good. If more fun would be had doing profitable ganks, then do that instead?
It doesn't matter, they will cry anyway.
If it is profitable: "Ganking is unbalanced and too easy, we should nerf ganking to add more risk and stuff because it's just too much ISK... and new players quit because they lose 10bil ISK Freighters! think of the children!"
If it is not profitable: "They just gank to make people cry! Ganking for profit is ok but if you don't earn ISK it's just harassment! They make new players quit!! Will someone think of the children!!!"
Usually you find both arguments in a nerf-ganking thread side by side. Obviously they just want to remove ganking from highsec. The one last nerf thing is just a lie.
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Posted - 2015.07.23 08:29:25 -
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Jethro Amar wrote:The only change I'd like to see is for concord to "arrest" the pod after action and transport it to nearest lowsec concord station. It doesn't make any real change for the gank itself, but it forces the gankers to play the game and interact with others instead of just "undock, warp, f1". It would force gankers to move through lowsec and hisec to their ganking system and give other players an opportunity to engage. Of course their medical clones would be moved to same lowsec station to avoid podexpress.
what gankers demand from haulers and miners is to scout ahead, be careful and interact. I'm sure they won't mind being held to the same standards as the carebears. You know that everyone can shoot us at any time even in Highsec because we are -10? What do you think would change if we had to stage in Lowsec? Nothing?
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Ima Wreckyou
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Posted - 2015.07.23 10:43:31 -
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Jethro Amar wrote:Lan Wang wrote:Jethro Amar wrote:What i meant was the nearest lowsec concord "prison" station, not just any lowsec. By the way, that 1 jump to uedama could be very hard to get through if somebody decided to put a few instalocking svipuls there. so really you just want to camp a gate and kill shuttles and pods Somehow you shooting pods is elite pvp while antigankers shooting pods is not? camping a gate and shooting unarmed ships is exactly what gankers do. By the way, i live in nullsec and haven't been doing anything in hisec since new year or so. I have no horse in this race. If you can't catch the pods in Highsec, what makes you think you will be able to kill them in lowsec?
Also lol at your idea that anti-gankers somehow would camp a gate. You do realize that CONCORD will not protect you there and that we are indeed capable of flying something other than gank Catalysts?
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Ima Wreckyou
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Posted - 2015.07.23 14:58:51 -
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afkalt wrote: So right this second I flew past a code neutral warp in alt ("Hi Perry Rodent!!!") in his venture, could I shoot him if I felt threatened as an escorter? Or shoot him as I KNOW he presents a threat? No, I cannot. Because high sec rules hilariously prevent it as he is lurking in an NPC corp (ironic, for a code alt).
Funny coming from an NPC forum alt
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Ima Wreckyou
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Posted - 2015.07.24 00:02:16 -
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Look friends, this Lucas guy is mad because someone used Isbotter to gank and then CCP immediately revised their stance on Input multiplexing and banned his Isbotter mining fleet in the process.
If you don't believe me, go to the Isbotter thread and read how butthurt he was about the whole Isbotter change. Of course he will deny everything, he is actually a ganker ... bla bla... cool story
He probably does not even play anymore, he just tries to get his revenge by pressing for a gank nerf, the profession who ended his cheating. As you may have noticed, reason and logic is not something he will use, he is in a state of blind hate and no amount of discussion will change that.
I suggest you just ignore him and let him rage on his own. There is nothing to be gained by giving him any attention.
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Ima Wreckyou
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Posted - 2015.07.24 05:02:10 -
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John E Normus wrote:Bro, I'm sorry but isk-centric bears make me NOH8 John
Look, all I wanted to say was: If there was some kind of "Veers memorial recognition award for incoherent EVE-O Forum minutes", I would clearly nominate Lucas.
See you on the Highsec battlefields <3
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Posted - 2015.08.08 14:19:52 -
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When I'm not dunking miners in EVE i dunk miners in RL. I think that's totally legit, but somehow they never answer the mails I send afterwards.
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Posted - 2015.08.08 21:47:44 -
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Wait a second! So if you are a carebear in-game who is whining all the time then you are probably doing that in RL as well?
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Posted - 2015.08.10 11:12:27 -
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XeX Znndstrup wrote:Psychopathy isn't a mitigating circumstance if you are an assassin and a scoundrel. Sentence : death. That's what we do all the time. We sentence illegal ore thieves and their collaborators to death. Resistance is futile! The Code always wins! Are you in need of a mining permit?
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Posted - 2015.08.10 16:10:35 -
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XeX Znndstrup wrote:Ima Wreckyou wrote:XeX Znndstrup wrote:Psychopathy isn't a mitigating circumstance if you are an assassin and a scoundrel. Sentence : death. That's what we do all the time. We sentence illegal ore thieves and their collaborators to death. Resistance is futile! The Code always wins! Are you in need of a mining permit? We believe Nature is for everyone. No mining permit necessary. On the other side, we offer life permit just before you're under arrest. May you use that submissively. I am not sure why I need a "life permit" just for the forums, since this is the only place you operate.
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Posted - 2015.08.11 10:42:56 -
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XeX Znndstrup wrote: We let you and your brothers time to think about this. That's what we offer, indeed. A life permit before blood and fire.
You seem to be more intelligent than some of your aggressive brothers. Try to understand. Try to explain them.
I already told them to not worry, because I can successfully defend everyone from you single-handedly with my elite forum warrior skills. I don't even need a spaceship.
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Posted - 2015.08.11 14:09:30 -
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Anne Dieu-le-veut wrote:XeX Znndstrup wrote:Psychopathy isn't a mitigating circumstance if you are an assassin and a scoundrel. Sentence : death.
How has this guy not been on Minerbumping yet? Because it's a blog about stuff that actually happens in EVE
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